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Vmware workstation 14 very slow free. Very Slow VM Performance at Workstations
ESXi IS the operating system on the hardware, and comes with much less operational overhead. It is a very fuzzy question because it is necessary to have more environment info to do a fine recommendation but assuming the basis : the condition you referred – we have to set an identical base hardware – , NO other vm running, the related vm is stored in the SAME physical peripheral and finally the vm has a SERVER role.
With these conditions the ESXI will always performs better. So my question is what do you need to do with vmware??? However if you plan to deploy a device in a datacenter you may want to use ESXI. I can go into more detail over the telephone if you like. Installing ESXi on that box would mean you would have to have another machine to connect to it via a vsphere Client – you would also need to be on the same subnet so a local switch if you are a small shop could fit the bill.
For anything enterprise related, production workloads I’d recommend going the ESXi route. Mind you this is only the very first baby step towards virtualization and the first building block.
Next you could have two ESXi hosts with a shared storage – a local NAS attached to them – if its a lab connect all three objects to the switch and put them on same subnet – install vcenter and viola you have yourself a good environment to spin workload in or experience the true capabilities albeit the starter ones of VMware.
Good luck. NO, Esxi is bare metal hypervisor Virtual layer which sits directly on hardware where as VM workstation needs any operating system to work. Hence performance of ESXi will be better than workstation. Hence all the production environment usage ESXi. If I may explain in layman terms. VMware Workstation needs an Operating system to run. For a virtual machine to talk to your hardware PC it has to talk to the guest os, then the base OS windows, linux, Mac OS and then to hardware.
There are multiple layers it has to go through before it could execute your guest os instructions. Thats why they call it Type 2 hypervisor. But when you run a vm on ESXi it uses the hypervisor directly talk to your hardware. Hence it is called Type 1 hypervisor. Unlike the previous scenario there are no multiple layers involved. Obviously, performance of ESXi would be far better than that of a Workstation. I am in agreement with Mr. HP has embedded in their blade framework where you can install a pre-installed USB stick inside the Blade’s architecture.
Then connect the server to a storage system. This gives the server high-speed front end processing without having to invest into disks. The USB stick can be GB drives that can be easily refreshed if an there is a problem found with the disk.
If you are not using blade servers, just use the USB3 connectors on a workstation that supports their Hardware Compatibility Matrix. This design sites atop of the Primary OS where the limitations of the OS are inherent with the existing underlying OS drivers, virus, software running, to echo Mr. Perry’s point earlier. ESX i is a type 1 hypervisor, which means it would typically run on bare metal with the virtual machines running on top. A type 2 hypervisor, like VMware Workstation provides a distinct second software layer, guest operating-systems run at the third level above the hardware.
Thus ESXi utilizes the full capacity of the hardware thus performance is exponentially better. If you are using the Workstation software you have all the other software running on the host. These 2 solutions use the same hypervisor. It should not give too much difference in performance.
The paid version has more features having nothing to do with performance. As far as the performance of the two vms on vmware workstation and ESXi is concerned, definitely the performance of vm on ESXi is far better, because it uses type 1 virtualization. The use case for vmware workstation is only testing and not running any actual servers.
ESXi is a purpose built, bare metal hypervisor. WMware Workstation is software built to sit on the top of an OS. For sure there will be difference since on vmware workstation you will be relying on windows operating systems which consume by itself some resources from your hardware not like vmware ESXi kernel which it doesn’t consume much compared to windows.
Two entirely different systems. Assuming you are running ESXi on a server, you have the full capability of the server hardware to run the VM. In VMware workstation, it is a program running on top of windows that then runs the VM.
Workstation depends on the desktop machine and then all the additional services running on it as a windows machine, then the overhead of the workstation, then you finally get to the VM.
It would be possible to have a beefy desktop with a light batch of services run a VM faster than an overburdened or underpowered host running ESXi but my money is on the ESXi everytime. Sign In. Will also try disabling RSC on the vSwitch and adapters. I had done this to one, but not all before I teamed 3. Keep in mind that that HP raid controller does have the ability to use smaller solid state drives for caching that may be an avenue to increase performance significantly without breaking the bank.
I think it’s called smartcache should be in that manual I posted earlier. Another thing I did with the host I’m working on that I forgot to mention – created the vSwitch manually. Something isn’t right with the vSwitch that’s automatically created for you when you install the Hyper-V role.
Don’t recall where I read it or exactly what the issue is but definitely helped performance when I created it myself. I think this can be ruled out as well.
The adapters aren’t Broadcom as I originally thought, the G9 servers used them, but not G I did pretty much as you suggested. I created a vSwitch on the host using 3 cards. Assigned that vSwitch to the vAdapter in the guest. Left the 4th for the host, and do not have the box checked to allow the host to use the vSwitch. No change in speed across the network. I will be posting some statistics in a later post.
I don’t have disk counters enabled yet, but am using some other tools to test speed results to come. I did look through the manual for the RAID card in the machine but didn’t find a lot that would apply to me thank you for providing the link. I am going to look into that further but once you see the results from the benchmarking maybe someone will have a better idea. I tried changing to the classic scheduler. No change. I had come across this before in another thread but thank you for the thought.
I had tried setting the page file to static on both the Host and Guest. I used the values you provided greater than the “recommended” amount when looking at the values when controlled by the OS. I have also done everything else in your post, no luck.
Issue persists. All VMQs are turned off. And as previously mentioned these new servers don’t use Broadcom NICs. Is there anything they do right? I use Symantec Endpoint Protection Cloud and they took a good product and removed support from anyone other than a reseller I checked all switches.
Everything is connecting at 1GB except some devices that don’t support that speed we have some IP phones, copiers, other phone system connections and our alarm system which run at Mbps.
Everything on the switch with the servers except for one item, the connection to my PDU which is Mbps show a 1GB connection. I was providing you the information on cores for VMs as guidance as a best practise. For such a low number of VMs, you could likely allocate all vCPUs to all VMs and see little issue, the point is it’s not good practise and will be painful as the business grows or in situations where there are 10’s or ‘s of VMs per host.
See attached PowerPoint a lot to digest, hopefully someone has time. It is not a virtual machine, and runs Windows R2, not Windows Then you probably need to look in the VM’s OSe to see where the bottleneck is? Do not use the Hyper-v manager stats nor the host stats, use the VM’s resource monitor via task manager I am working on setting this up to test.
That should be your very first step. The disk benchmark needs to run against local drives. It looks like you might be testing against some mapped drives. On the Lan test, pay attention to the Chart tab. The chart view showed that like a heartbeat monitor graph. I wouldn’t say troublesome, just may need to be tweaked differently than Broadcom based NICs. There are some threads on that including one by some people doing extensive testing but the thread has gotten so long and often off topic that I don’t pay attention to it much any longer.
Yes and no. Those are the theoretical maximum of the busses – not what each drive is capable of doing. SSD drives may get you close, spinning drives nowhere near. Add Raid to the picture and that goes out the window with speeds dependent on not only the drive but the bus type and Raid level as well.
Don’t know if I did this right, but went to Hyper-V manager, add hardware, network adapter. Added 2 vNICs but did not attach either to the vSwitch. Ethernet S: below Kbps, R: below 50Kbps. If I do the same but look at resource monitor I get the following. Seems like a network issue, but I can’t be sure of that. The benchmark tests were reasonable, higher than what I am seeing, but lower than I would expect. Pretty close so could be other users on a different VM on the server had to turn on today, was off yesterday resulting in slightly lower performance, but there was definitely no large gain.
Does running it local pull the data down to the workstations, work on it then send it back – that would explain the network peaks and reduced time to complete the task. I meant to mention, I did disable RSC at all levels yesterday, didn’t help.
I find it very odd that Atto on the old physical server which is seeing very low usage today was almost non-existent for write yet we got better performance at the workstation level. If I run local, all operations are done on the Guest VM. This has been my temporary workaround, I have the staff who must use this there are three with rights to RDP into the server and run the tasks there. The data is saved on the Guest VM. Then when the tasks are done, they logout and work from their workstations with no problem.
The task in question opens every client file they range in size from 2MB down to 7kb and there are about files , then writes to a larger file on the server. The larger file is then manipulated if there are any rejects from the data feed so after all is done everything reconciles to the custodial data for all positions. We get feeds from 6 different providers, so this task has to be run 6 times each day.
Obviously going from 10 minutes to potentially over an hour is not acceptable. I added a switch, maybe I should move everything to the old switches and pull the new switch to see if it is the bottleneck. This is the only thing other than the servers that was added to the infrastructure and at the same time the servers were. I have to get going for the day or my wife will kill me.
But I can give this a try next week physically, I can’t do it today anyway I took a tumble down an entire flight of stairs Thursday night I wasn’t under the influence, just lost my balance and I am dealing with a ton of bruises and a knee that isn’t broken, but can’t handle me bending it with weight on it hurts to bend even without weight on it.
Hoping I didn’t do major damage, waiting to see if it is just soft tissue damage or if I have to see a Orthopedic Surgeon. It makes it almost impossible to do anything physical can barely reach the food bowls for our cats from the floor at feeding time. And in case you are wondering, my pseudonym is accurate.
That is my 20 month old English Mastiff when he was 12 weeks old. He is now lbs and the cats adore him we also have 2 Chihuahuas who aren’t fond of the Mastiff and multiple other pets. Not that anyone probably cares or noticed. I just want to point it out to make sure that you do. You network speeds when running the troublesome system do seem bizarrely close to Mbit but slightly over. I know the original concern or us answerers was mostly disk performance, then it swung to network performance.
Both certainly seem reasonable on their own. You do seem to be pulling the files over the network whrn pushing them back the way you described which will be slower than doing so directly on the server, can you note schedule it? Wow, what a thread! We have a r2 installation, running a financial software, and the version for r2 is not the same version for , but do the same task. Have you checked with your software vendor for hot-fixes or troubleshooting advice? I doubt it is the switch, and in all honesty moving 24 devices around not using the other 24 ports yet will take a lot more effort have to update all of my records.
I am going to move my physical server running only Altaro and AD to a different machine exactly alike, should be able to do a Windows Server Backup bare metal restore. If that doesn’t help, it has to be network related. I need to see if I can copy faster with the 3 NIC team large file copy.
Have yet to try that. It has been a much longer post than I had hoped. I get a bit verbose to say the least but want to give as much information as possible when nothing else has worked. I do have an open ticket with the vendor. They swear it runs in a VM on Server but someone may be misinformed. Unfortunately, this ancient program won’t allow me to schedule these tasks although I will double check with the developer just to make sure they aren’t missing something.
Even if they could be, it wouldn’t work well. I don’t do this, but have been told they need to work with one import at a time or it can get confusing. I do have other tasks scheduled on the software, but they don’t require any type of intervention between steps. I should talk to the developer and see if there are commands to do each that could somehow be done without giving access to the server via RDP.
I hate this workaround. The users only have rights on this one machine, and already have the ability to access all of the data it contains. However, one screw-up and up to four hours of work could be lost it is backed up every four hours Only one person can access the program at a time whether at the server or workstation.
They can’t be that expensive hopefully. If I can figure out why things aren’t running right they wouldn’t be necessary. Thanks for all of your help. At least if nothing else I am learning more about best practices. I may have overspent on the CPUs and underspent on the drives. Luckily the program that is hurting the worst can be loaded on SSD drives I already have I also have the budget to get more if this takes care of the issue.
I usually get more powerful hardware than what I need when I buy new so I have room to grow for 5 years my standard replacement cycle. I should have done a bit more research before pulling the trigger. I have a feeling I can sell the SAS drives back to my reseller if needed. Luckily I have two new hosts Then I can move the VMs back to the “fixed” host and reconfigure the 2nd one.
Glad I have ILO, a lot easier than standing at the monitor in the server room if it comes to this. I likely won’t have other updates until next weekend. Believe it or not, this isn’t my primary job. I am also our Chief Compliance Officer, a CPA who prepares about difficult tax returns each year, and an investment advisor. If my wife didn’t have her hobbies and if my kids weren’t grown I would likely be divorced due to the amount of time I spend working!
I wonder if you, by any chance, could do a direct P2V conversion from your old physical server that was working well to a virtual machine and see if that changes anything. Login or sign up to reply to this topic. Didn’t find what you were looking for? Search the forums for similar questions or check out the Virtualization forum. No real budget for this. Your daily dose of tech news, in brief. Welcome to Monday And be careful as today may be more exciting and dangerous than many Mondays as today is also International Axe Throwing Day, a once Canadian backyard pastime that is now sweeping the globe!
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Everyone have a good New Year! Where does “workstation” come in?? Spice 1 flag Report. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. The old OS was R2 on a physical machine. No Hyper-V. I’ll be honest, there is a lot to read, so i’ve skimmed the post. Generally a VM needs less resources than a physical machine, so whatever spec you’ve given your guests, reduce it to vCPUs and see how you go – memory is less important so long as you don’t heavily oversubscribe I’ll read the rest shortly.
Can you also confirm you have installed the Hyper-V tools. I run a nested Hyper-V on top of ESXi in my lab and do not have these issues, so lets start with your configuration Spice 1 flag Report. MCEStaff This person is a verified professional.
You don’t have local installs of the program on the workstations? Does the program access a few large files or many small files? I’ll also repeat two of Rod’s points: change your vCPU to 1 or 2. Spice 2 flag Report. Not worried about CPU usage. Even if I look at the host it is very low. Hope this helps you help me! MCEStaff, The program is loaded on about 20 of our workstations not everyone uses it. As such it has literally thousands of tiny files that are being accessed.
I will try lowering the vCPU number, but don’t I get two per core? Regards flag Report. Best practise is to start with vCPUs and add more as needed. If the application or process is not truly multi-threaded, more cores or vCPUs would harm your performance, and drastically flag Report. Mastiff Guy wrote: There are too many configuration snapshots to put them in this message.
Your vCPU configuration is not good practice. ZebraMike This person is a verified professional. Do you have the Disk Counters enabled? Gregg Spice 1 flag Report. Batman’s Byte. Works “locally”, not “remotely”. This also sounds to me like an network issue. That was a very long post to read Have a good Saturday everyone I have a lot to test now and greatly appreciate the feedback. Currently I’m using the following tools: Lan Speed Test by Totusoft to test network speed with different size packets.
Atto disk benchmark to test drive speed – using it to test with different Raid cache settings. I’ll be updating as I test. Thanks again. Rod – I think we can rule this out. After testing yesterday I saw very little change in speed by reducing vCPUs 1 was slower, with 2 the speed was about the same as with I am leaving at 2 for now since that has no impact and 14 is not best practices.
Gregg I tried changing to the classic scheduler. Mastiff Guy wrote: I think this can be ruled out as well. Now I am even more confused ZebraMike wrote: Keep in mind that that HP raid controller does have the ability to use smaller solid state drives for caching that may be an avenue to increase performance significantly without breaking the bank.
Vmware workstation 14 very slow free
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